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Title: Remington 870 DM
Post by: overhead on December 06, 2017, 09:34:32 PM
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/first-look-remington-870-dm/amp/

I have a custom cerakote 870 that I absolutely love.... And I think it could be on the block after seeing this. Man it's pretty


Title: Re: Remington 870 DM
Post by: wbsjp on December 06, 2017, 10:34:57 PM
Don,t like it,too bottom heavy,
I,ll just put an extended tube on mine,,,,


Title: Re: Remington 870 DM
Post by: Search on December 07, 2017, 05:20:54 AM
I call dibs on buying my 870 back if you do sell it.


Title: Re: Remington 870 DM
Post by: HAWAIICJ on December 07, 2017, 07:00:03 AM
Nice! Now if it was semi auto.... that would be something! :tu


Title: Re: Remington 870 DM
Post by: highlandercj-7 on December 07, 2017, 04:52:17 PM
I dig it. Oh yes semi would be awesome and a 25 round drum :)


Title: Re: Remington 870 DM
Post by: sirjames186 on December 08, 2017, 12:10:50 PM
I've been chewing on if I like this for a couple days now.  I'm still on the fence.  It's very cool, but I think it missed the mark.

First off, way to go Remington for thinking outside the box and putting the rest of the shotgun world on their heels.  This is a huge step forward and they deserve all the credit they can get for it.  With that said, there are 2 big misses in my book.  I currently have a Mossberg 930 sps which for an 18.5-inch barrel holds 8 rounds, granted it's a semi, not a pump.  To compare apples to apples, a 590 with an 18.5 barrel holds 7, and that's not counting if you ghost load it.  I mean heck even the tactical version of the 870 holds 7 rounds from the factory.  So for Remington to come out with a 6 round mag right out of the box for this just seems stupid.  Debut with a bang, show us how awesome this is with a 10 rounder right off the bat.  There is no reason to lead off with a 6 except to say they are appeasing the gun grabbers in Cali and NY with mag restrictions.  I have no reason to buy that, what I currently have, or other offerings on the market, are better.

Now, point 2 you would say, yes others hold more but you can't reload that as fast.  True, in stock form.  There are tons of gunsmiths out there who modify speedloaders for 3 gun shooters or anyone with enough money to want it.  Yes, speedloaders are 3 feet long and all that, I get it.  But the fact is, I can modify what I currently have.  And maybe I just haven't seen it yet, but it doesn't look like this DM attachment can be purchased on its own and added to an 870 I already own.  Yes, I realize doing that would require some serious gunsmithing, but I would bet 870 owners would be lined up around the block to convert their 870 to a DM if they could.  Remington is a business, they need to make money, yadda yadda, I get it, buy the new shotgun.  But man, they could have made money hand over fist if this was somehow a conversion kit people could buy on their own.

I don't mean to sound like a Mossberg fanboy, or a Remington hater either. I grew up shooting 870s and the only reason why I don't own one now is because I shot the barrel out of my grandfathers wingmaster learning trap as a teenager and I don't know what he ever did with it.  When I went to buy a new shotgun post-college, I couldn't afford the Remington and their quality control issues had me worried, so I got a Mossberg.

So moral of the story, as it stands now, totally cool, but not worth the $500-$800 for a new one.


Title: Re: Remington 870 DM
Post by: smileyT on December 08, 2017, 04:49:56 PM
Saiga 🤔


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Title: Re: Remington 870 DM
Post by: Search on December 08, 2017, 06:55:09 PM
Saiga 🤔


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Indeed!


Title: Re: Remington 870 DM
Post by: sirjames186 on January 22, 2018, 08:34:51 AM
Mossberg just announced their version on this, and it comes with options for a 5, 10, 15, or 20 round mag.  Now we're talking!

http://www.mossberg.com/new-590m-mag-fed-pump-action/


Title: Re: Remington 870 DM
Post by: overhead on January 22, 2018, 09:11:45 AM
Mossberg just announced their version on this, and it comes with options for a 5, 10, 15, or 20 round mag.  Now we're talking!

http://www.mossberg.com/new-590m-mag-fed-pump-action/

I wonder if I can sell my 870 for a grand to kit out this the way I'd want to...


Title: Re: Remington 870 DM
Post by: Burnzy on January 22, 2018, 05:00:24 PM
Mossberg just announced their version on this, and it comes with options for a 5, 10, 15, or 20 round mag.  Now we're talking!

http://www.mossberg.com/new-590m-mag-fed-pump-action/

I wonder if I can sell my 870 for a grand to kit out this the way I'd want to...
I just left Sharp Shooters with this, 870 Tac14, basically itís a legal sawed off shotgun. Itís classified as ďotherĒ because itís too short.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180122/b5d754cc65a78d67e2e20dea7d8588a9.jpg)


Title: Re: Remington 870 DM
Post by: sirjames186 on January 22, 2018, 05:04:53 PM
Jealous


Title: Re: Remington 870 DM
Post by: dave2002ti on January 22, 2018, 07:56:43 PM
Tavor's new 12 gauge bullpup shotgun
https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2018/01/17/introducing-new-tavor-ts12-bullpup-shotgun-iwi/


MSRP approx $1300

Dave Apker


Title: Re: Remington 870 DM
Post by: Other_Erik on January 23, 2018, 09:28:06 AM
Mossberg just announced their version on this, and it comes with options for a 5, 10, 15, or 20 round mag.  Now we're talking!
http://www.mossberg.com/new-590m-mag-fed-pump-action/
I wonder if I can sell my 870 for a grand to kit out this the way I'd want to...
I just left Sharp Shooters with this, 870 Tac14, basically itís a legal sawed off shotgun. Itís classified as ďotherĒ because itís too short.

I managed to find a Tac-14 for the wife, and her sister got her a Moss 590, so we've got that all loaded up.  Next stop is gonna be the 20ga Moss590.  So much fun!

O_E


Title: Re: Remington 870 DM
Post by: dave2002ti on February 12, 2018, 09:03:58 AM
Just FYI rumors on the interweb suggest Remington may file for bankruptcy. Chap 13???

Dave Apker


Title: Re: Remington 870 DM
Post by: sirjames186 on February 12, 2018, 09:37:43 AM
Just FYI rumors on the interweb suggest Remington may file for bankruptcy. Chap 13???

Dave Apker

Wouldn't surprise me.  They've had 3 failed handgun launches in the past 3 years (R51, RM380, RP9), plus the 700 trigger lawsuit.