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« Reply #105 on: April 09, 2018, 07:56:01 AM »

I will take whatever D35 hardware I can get. 

I've got a whole D35 out of a 98TJ, complete drum to drum, with 3.73 gears, sitting in my shop, nothing wrong with it. Feel free to come take it away!

Alright, PM'd.

Yes, take that axle, then come get mine and do a full regear to 3.73 for cheap! lol

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« Reply #106 on: April 09, 2018, 08:08:59 AM »

I will take whatever D35 hardware I can get.

I've got a whole D35 out of a 98TJ, complete drum to drum, with 3.73 gears, sitting in my shop, nothing wrong with it. Feel free to come take it away!

Alright, PM'd.

Yes, take that axle, then come get mine and do a full regear to 3.73 for cheap! lol

Crap. This is an excellent point.  Though I don't think I would necessarily gain much by moving to 3.73...?
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« Reply #107 on: April 09, 2018, 08:14:06 AM »

I will take whatever D35 hardware I can get.

I've got a whole D35 out of a 98TJ, complete drum to drum, with 3.73 gears, sitting in my shop, nothing wrong with it. Feel free to come take it away!

Alright, PM'd.

Yes, take that axle, then come get mine and do a full regear to 3.73 for cheap! lol

Crap. This is an excellent point.  Though I don't think I would necessarily gain much by moving to 3.73...?

Plug in the numbers and find out:  http://www.grimmjeeper.com/gears.html

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« Reply #108 on: April 09, 2018, 08:22:39 AM »


Crap. This is an excellent point.  Though I don't think I would necessarily gain much by moving to 3.73...?

From 3.07? Yeah, 3.73 would be a BIG improvement...

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« Reply #109 on: April 09, 2018, 08:30:24 AM »

You WILL not find another $200 regear that I'd trust. just saying.

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« Reply #110 on: April 09, 2018, 08:38:08 AM »

You WILL not find another $200 regear that I'd trust. just saying.

Oh I'm with this 100%, just thinking aloud here.  Looks like I'll need to carve out some garage space for two additional axles...

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« Reply #111 on: April 09, 2018, 08:45:39 AM »

You would be real happy with 3.73 unless you put 33s on it, then it would be somewhat sluggish.  If you put 32s you would probably still stay happy with 3.73 and I believe they will fit without adding a lift (maybe just 1" spring spacers?).  31s will fit no question and still be peppy.  Most will tell you to go to either 4.56 or 4.88 if you run 33s and then you could even go to 35s.  But then you would need a big lift......

Don't forget to change the speedo gear after you finish whatever you may do.

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« Reply #112 on: April 09, 2018, 11:46:51 AM »

So I'm actually a little hesitant to do another axle swap since I'm only on 30" tires right now.  If I hadn't just bought a 3.07 geared front D30, or if I had larger tires it would be a different story.  But since I will be sticking with 30" tires and the rear D35 for the time being, I may scoop the spare D35 from Zuke and pull what I need just to get this back on the road sooner. 

...unless someone can convince me that 3.73 will be staggeringly better than 3.07 for something that is 95% road and 5% trail.  Those numbers will absolutely change in the future but not as long as I have 30" tires and a rear axle made of glass. 

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« Reply #113 on: April 09, 2018, 11:58:39 AM »

4 liter engine right?  Which transmission?  If you have the 4 speed with overdrive, you'll want the 3.73 even on 30s.  The overdrive is crazy steep.

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« Reply #114 on: April 09, 2018, 11:59:07 AM »

With tires that small, you are golden with the D35 and 307s. My Daughters is that on 31's with a 4.0L Auto (no over drive) and it runs well. 19 MPG and easily can hit 90 MPH. I do not see you having issues with the turdy 5 until you go to at least 33's. Save the $$ and run it!

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« Reply #115 on: April 09, 2018, 12:00:12 PM »

If it was me, I'd get the axles from Zuke and James (not knowing James' price).  Swap them in and call it done.  You already know how to do it and have the tools handy.  Also, all the bolts have recently been in and out.  You have time while waiting for the paint to dry - haha.  There is a market to sell the front 3.07 D30 on CL it seems, and it will probably sell quick (mine went fast anyway).  People always seem to break them (how I don't know) and it's way cheaper to buy a used one than repair one.

But of course it's your time and money not ours.   Dunno?

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« Reply #116 on: April 09, 2018, 12:02:13 PM »

If it was me, I'd get the axles from Zuke and James (not knowing James' price).  Swap them in and call it done.  You already know how to do it and have the tools handy.  Also, all the bolts have recently been in and out.  You have time while waiting for the paint to dry - haha.  There is a market to sell the front 3.07 D30 on CL it seems, and it will probably sell quick (mine went fast anyway).  People always seem to break them (how I don't know) and it's way cheaper to buy a used one than repair one.

But of course it's your time and money not ours.   Dunno?

Haven't put mine on CL yet, but I'll let it go cheap to a nova member.  Once it's on CL price goes up! Wink

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« Reply #117 on: April 09, 2018, 12:10:51 PM »

Unless it's the last part of the project, I'd just use what parts you need to make what you have work. Run it the way it is, knowing that you can swap to the 3.73s when needed. I'm always more motivated to make upgrades after I have the vehicle working.

And if you find the thing doing mostly highway duty anyway, you'll get better MPG from the 3.07's But it will suck on hills and offroad on even 31's

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« Reply #118 on: April 09, 2018, 01:54:47 PM »

If it was me, I'd get the axles from Zuke and James (not knowing James' price).  Swap them in and call it done.  You already know how to do it and have the tools handy.  Also, all the bolts have recently been in and out.  You have time while waiting for the paint to dry - haha.  There is a market to sell the front 3.07 D30 on CL it seems, and it will probably sell quick (mine went fast anyway).  People always seem to break them (how I don't know) and it's way cheaper to buy a used one than repair one.

But of course it's your time and money not ours.   Dunno?

Haven't put mine on CL yet, but I'll let it go cheap to a nova member.  Once it's on CL price goes up! Wink

Yeah I can appreciate that.  The generous offer is noted but I think I'll stick with the 3.07 setup for now.  And Frank you're right that it wouldn't be difficult at all--knocking on wood, it sounds like rust and broken bolts won't be much of an issue on this Jeep.  I'd rather keep what I have instead of adding extra steps.  I guarantee you I'll be moving to something like 4.56 or 4.88 in the future, but until I run down these current tires I'm not going to rush anything.  Remember...wedding in September for me so I'm literally hemorrhaging cash as it is.  

Unless it's the last part of the project, I'd just use what parts you need to make what you have work. Run it the way it is, knowing that you can swap to the 3.73s when needed. I'm always more motivated to make upgrades after I have the vehicle working.

And if you find the thing doing mostly highway duty anyway, you'll get better MPG from the 3.07's But it will suck on hills and offroad on even 31's

Butttttttt John I'll still gladly take that Dana 35 off your hands and pull what I need!

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« Reply #119 on: April 11, 2018, 08:10:17 PM »

Squeezed a used Dana 35 into the back of my pristine 3,000 mile Mazda CX-5 rental car this afternoon thanks to Mister Zuke. Awesome shop man, thanks again. Hope to visit again soon!

Will be taking advantage of the good used parts and spare D35 hardware, Iím sure.

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