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« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2019, 11:35:29 PM »

Just a heads up, not sure you have to do it for the AMC 20 kit, but i had to source soft lines to run from the hard line to the calipers on my own. for my kit, the lines out of a '98 Pontiac Grand Am worked. we didn't have the luxury of calling TSM to get their recommendation since we encountered the issue mid build and the Jeep had to drive out of the borrowed shop space we were using at the end of the day. I' d recommend asking TSM if the lines are included or which to use if not if you go with their kit.
They say i will need to get some soft extensions to run as you say. So I will be prepared for that. They said in the email that it will require one tack weld per side, but others on the web have said it is not needed. Did you need to?

what are they saying needs a tack weld? we did not weld anything on my axle.

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« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2019, 05:41:43 AM »

Just a heads up, not sure you have to do it for the AMC 20 kit, but i had to source soft lines to run from the hard line to the calipers on my own. for my kit, the lines out of a '98 Pontiac Grand Am worked. we didn't have the luxury of calling TSM to get their recommendation since we encountered the issue mid build and the Jeep had to drive out of the borrowed shop space we were using at the end of the day. I' d recommend asking TSM if the lines are included or which to use if not if you go with their kit.
They say i will need to get some soft extensions to run as you say. So I will be prepared for that. They said in the email that it will require one tack weld per side, but others on the web have said it is not needed. Did you need to?

what are they saying needs a tack weld? we did not weld anything on my axle.

The bracket for the caliper. And rereading it, it appears as if they do provide the soft line. So that is good.


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« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2019, 09:15:12 AM »

Dain,

A couple of quick notes for you to think about – you may already know this, just in case you do not.
 
1. The wheel bearings & retainer must be cut off to remove the drum brake baking plate with the one-piece axles. New retainers & bearings are needed.
2. The wheel unit bearing is different for the one-piece vs. the two-piece axle.
3. The retainer ring that comes with the Timken bearing set (SET9) will not work with the one-piece axle. The correct ring will need to be ordered separately.
4. A big press is needed to install the retainer ring & bearing.
5. You should replace the inner and outer axle seals while you have it apart. Oh yea, not all inner seals are the same thickness and the one-piece axle the bearing spacer must be within 0.030 of an inch fitment.

You ask how do I know this, well I just spent 10 days replacing the axle seals on the CJ. Most of that time was spent ordering, waiting, measuring, replacing, calling, and head scratching to figure this out. But the good news is have taken the AMC 20 axle apart, cut bearing, measure, ground, and pressed bearing enough times that I can do it my sleep.
 
I have the axle bearing jig, seal puller, axle puller, and access to big press needed to make the disassembly and reassembly easier…

For what it is worth.
Garner

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« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2019, 09:22:45 AM »

Thanks Garner. You just helped my push that little project into next year. 😜

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« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2019, 09:36:39 AM »

That was not my intentions - sorry.

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« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2019, 10:36:48 AM »

That was not my intentions - sorry.


Not a problem. Just don’t want to get myself into a mess this year. I need to wheel it some first. T case going in at some point in August.

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« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2019, 12:24:49 PM »

Thanks Garner. You just helped my push that little project into next year. 😜

Sounds like you should just regear while you're in there. Maybe throw on some nice covers..... Hey wait a minute. Don't jk rear axles already have all those parts?

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« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2019, 01:16:35 PM »

Thanks Garner. You just helped my push that little project into next year. 😜

Sounds like you should just regear while you're in there. Maybe throw on some nice covers..... Hey wait a minute. Don't jk rear axles already have all those parts?

😜
What is your commission on those axles?  You are such a salesman.

A Gladiator has them too. So I might as well just go down the street and shell out $60K for a Rubicon.

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« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2019, 03:07:18 PM »

Dain,

A couple of quick notes for you to think about – you may already know this, just in case you do not.
 
1. The wheel bearings & retainer must be cut off to remove the drum brake baking plate with the one-piece axles. New retainers & bearings are needed.
2. The wheel unit bearing is different for the one-piece vs. the two-piece axle.
3. The retainer ring that comes with the Timken bearing set (SET9) will not work with the one-piece axle. The correct ring will need to be ordered separately.
4. A big press is needed to install the retainer ring & bearing.
5. You should replace the inner and outer axle seals while you have it apart. Oh yea, not all inner seals are the same thickness and the one-piece axle the bearing spacer must be within 0.030 of an inch fitment.

You ask how do I know this, well I just spent 10 days replacing the axle seals on the CJ. Most of that time was spent ordering, waiting, measuring, replacing, calling, and head scratching to figure this out. But the good news is have taken the AMC 20 axle apart, cut bearing, measure, ground, and pressed bearing enough times that I can do it my sleep.
 
I have the axle bearing jig, seal puller, axle puller, and access to big press needed to make the disassembly and reassembly easier…

For what it is worth.
Garner


When I did my D20 one piece kit they didn't mention that you need to remove the axle shaft spacer in the diff so upon installing the second axle when I was tightening  the backing plate I was pushing the first axle out of the pressed bearing and retainer.

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« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2019, 03:18:43 PM »

Thanks Garner. You just helped my push that little project into next year. 😜

Sounds like you should just regear while you're in there. Maybe throw on some nice covers..... Hey wait a minute. Don't jk rear axles already have all those parts?

😜
What is your commission on those axles?  You are such a salesman.

A Gladiator has them too. So I might as well just go down the street and shell out $60K for a Rubicon.

hey, when you go to 35s on the gladiator the stock tires can go on the same jk axles under your scrambler.

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« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2019, 05:31:02 PM »

Thanks Garner. You just helped my push that little project into next year. 😜

Sounds like you should just regear while you're in there. Maybe throw on some nice covers..... Hey wait a minute. Don't jk rear axles already have all those parts?

😜
What is your commission on those axles?  You are such a salesman.

A Gladiator has them too. So I might as well just go down the street and shell out $60K for a Rubicon.

hey, when you go to 35s on the gladiator the stock tires can go on the same jk axles under your scrambler.

Pffft. The stock tires on the Gladiator are too small for the Scrambler. When/if I get the Gladiator (or any truck) the Scrambler will no longer see Daily Driving and will start to be built up for more intense tock crawling.

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« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2019, 06:20:52 PM »

Thanks Garner. You just helped my push that little project into next year. 😜

Sounds like you should just regear while you're in there. Maybe throw on some nice covers..... Hey wait a minute. Don't jk rear axles already have all those parts?

😜
What is your commission on those axles?  You are such a salesman.

A Gladiator has them too. So I might as well just go down the street and shell out $60K for a Rubicon.

hey, when you go to 35s on the gladiator the stock tires can go on the same jk axles under your scrambler.

Pffft. The stock tires on the Gladiator are too small for the Scrambler. When/if I get the Gladiator (or any truck) the Scrambler will no longer see Daily Driving and will start to be built up for more intense tock crawling.

so you're talking yourself into buying the jk axles? Wait now I'm confused.

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« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2019, 06:37:26 PM »

Thanks Garner. You just helped my push that little project into next year. 😜

Sounds like you should just regear while you're in there. Maybe throw on some nice covers..... Hey wait a minute. Don't jk rear axles already have all those parts?

😜
What is your commission on those axles?  You are such a salesman.

A Gladiator has them too. So I might as well just go down the street and shell out $60K for a Rubicon.

hey, when you go to 35s on the gladiator the stock tires can go on the same jk axles under your scrambler.

Pffft. The stock tires on the Gladiator are too small for the Scrambler. When/if I get the Gladiator (or any truck) the Scrambler will no longer see Daily Driving and will start to be built up for more intense tock crawling.

so you're talking yourself into buying the jk axles? Wait now I'm confused.

Not anytime soon

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« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2019, 06:48:19 AM »

Hmm, I will sell you a set of 9" ford axles, a V-8 auto conversion, RE SOA springs and a bunch other stuff for it  Cool It comes in a nice carrying package as well.

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« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2019, 07:17:19 AM »

Hmm, I will sell you a set of 9" ford axles, a V-8 auto conversion, RE SOA springs and a bunch other stuff for it  Cool It comes in a nice carrying package as well.

I need to do this in a slow manner. A big bang like that would reault in divorce.

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